Jam!!

lsinger9404 · Post by **lsinger9404** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:33 am

Wow...Jonesy's playing "English Rose"...one of my favorite Jam songs (there's too many to have oone favorite)

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:35 am

I should start listening to Indie more again.... my iPod is playing Pavement - Secret Knowledge

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:41 am

Now it's playing Pedro The Lion - Bad Things To Good People
This is fun!!!

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:49 am

REM - Orange Crush

followed by

The Internet - Gwen Stefani vs. The Eagles vs. Dead Pres. vs. Abba

I'm taking over this thread!!!!

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:01 pm

Longview - Further

and

The Postal Service - Against All Odds

Forget this, I should take over Indie!

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:06 pm

So you like a band who took their title from the biggest Green Day song of all time? "Longview"
My itunes is spitting out Gabriela Anders right now

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:07 pm

I don't care, they don't suck like green Day!

Mine's playing:

Janis Joplin - Cry Baby

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:11 pm

I've got Ditty Bops "Walk or Ride"

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:12 pm

Ladytron - Flicking Your Switch

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:15 pm

Shout Out Louds -The Comeback-

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:17 pm

The Stills - Lola Starts and Stripes

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:27 pm

Ike Reilly Assassination "President of the World"
Radiohead "Just (acoustic demo)"
Trail of Dead "A Classic Arts Showcase"

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:29 pm

Sons And Daughters - Rad Receiver
Belle And Sebastian - Judy And The Dream Of Horses

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:32 pm

The Cure - Sugar Girl
Tracy And The Plastics - OOO!

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:41 pm

Mia Doi Todd - Like a Knife (it's putting me to sleep!)
The Jesus & Mary Chain - Just Like Honey

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:45 pm

I was on the phone so I missed a bunch, but now Rilo Kiley "Always"

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:53 pm

Nirvana "Pennyroyal Tea"

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:54 pm

Frederico Aubele "un Lugar"

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:54 pm

Bloc Party - Helicopter
Dire Straits - In The Gallery

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:56 pm

Fiery Furnaces "Two Fat Feet"

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:59 pm

Hombres G - Devuelveme A Mi Chica (This band kills both Spanish and English language indie bands, you HAVE to hear them!)

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:00 pm

The Vines - 1969-

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:01 pm

Haven't they been around forever?

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:03 pm

foreeeeever, I first heard them when I was about 10 years old.

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:04 pm

TV On The Radio - Staring At The Sun (why doesn't Indie play them... do they?)
Air - Run

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:08 pm

Lighting Seeds "Waiting for Today to Happen" (97 version)

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:14 pm

Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Telepopmusik - Mathematics
The Cure - A Letter To Elise

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:18 pm

VICE SQUAD- RESURRECTION!!!!!!

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:30 pm

Now I'm listening to Indie!

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:49 pm

Pond Love / Mayday / Saddle Creek
Walking Contradiction 2:32 Green Day Noize Boys
Track 3 4:29 Stone Roses Second Coming
Sittin Here 4:05 Dizzee Rascal Boy In Da Corner
Blood Bank 1:26 The Blood Brothers Rumors Laid Waste
neighborhood #1 (tunnels) 4:48 the arcade fire funeral Indie
this is for me and i know everyone knows 2:59 blonde redhead in an expression of the inexpressible Rock
Wester 3:01 AFI The Art Of Drowning
You Can't Always Get What You Want 7:28 The Rolling Stones Let It Bleed Rock 1
Company In My Back 3:48 Wilco A Ghost is Born Rock 1

I was on the phone again

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:43 pm

What's with all that information? Straight from your iTunes????

Gasp, I was just listening to some Blonde Redhead too!!!!!

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:44 pm

yep! Just go to recently played and select what you want to post, you have to take some of the numbers out though

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:47 pm

On Top -The Killers-
New Slang - The Shins -
The Sound Of Settling 2:12 Death Cab For Cutie Transatlanticism
Evil 3:35 Interpol Antics
World Shut Your Mouth 3:38 Julian Cope Saint Julian
Telescope Eyes 3:03 Eisley Room Noises
Somewhere A Clock Is Ticking 4:34 Snow Patrol Final Straw [UK]
Stay Now 3:43 Jem Finally Woken
Pearl Jam - All Those Yesterdays 4:21
I Dont Know Why 2:47 Krauss, Alison Every Time You Say Goodbye Under My Skin 4:13 Rachael Yamagata Happenstance
Let It Ride 3:36 Dinosaur Jr. Bug
pond love 3:26 mayday Saddle_Creek_50 Indie

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:48 pm

Oh, look some Green Day creeped it's way into you iTunes!

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:50 pm

there is actually a lot. I like them because I liked Op Ivy, with Billy Joe and his brother Tim Armstrong (Rancid). So when they split I followed both bands

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:17 pm

One went on to rock, the other to suck!

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:39 am

They aren't brothers...I looked it up...~goofy look on face~

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:41 am

What's that goofy look for? Please tell me your SERIOUS!!!!!

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:43 am

I am serious...I went HUH??? That cannot be...soooo...I googled it..and sure 'nuff....they aren't brothers.....Tim has a brother named Jeff though...

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:44 am

Awesome! last time I believe TOM!!!!!!

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:08 am

LOL. I guess yesterday was my turn to be omnibudsperson!!!

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:40 am

Rather than follow Michaels to the monastery, Freeman and Armstrong recruited drummer Reed and declared themselves Rancid. Their debut, an EP dubbed I'm Not the Only One, was issued in 1992, and shortly after 1993's Rancid appeared, guitarist Frederiksen joined the lineup. "Radio," a single from the band's next album, 1994's Let's Go, was co-written by Green Day's Billy Joe Armstrong, establishing a connection that made Rancid the flavor of the week after Green Day's Dookie became one of the biggest smashes of that year. A&R scouts came calling in huge numbers, and Madonna went so far as to send the boys a nude photo of herself (from her notorious book Sex) in an effort to convince them to sign with her company, Maverick. The situation was so absurd, Freeman says, "that at times we just felt like it was us four in the fucking jungle behind enemy lines, like a fucking war movie. We had this major label [Epic] offer us, like, $1.5 million, which I'd never, ever thought was possible in my lifetime.

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:44 am

But they aint brothers, toot sweet.....You had me and Annie all confoozled.....

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:02 am

yeah, i didn't get the family ties from that tid bit....

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:05 am

I really think they are. Just can't find it anywhere. I know they had a falling out after the '94 Rancid albumn, but have obviously reconciled since.

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:09 am

"I really think they are" simply doesn't cut it....

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:31 am

Tim Armstrong was born in Berkeley, CA on November 25, 1966. His mother often worked long hours to support Tim, his older brothers Greg, Jeff and her husband who suffered from alcoholism.

One of Tim’s earliest memories is going to the racetrack, Golden Gate Fields (which would later become the subject of a song from Rancid 2000). His first introduction to punk rock was when he would follow his brothers on their record shopping trips to Berkeley’s Telegraph Avenue – they nicknamed him “tagalong”. His brothers listened to the Ramones, the Clash and the Specials – which later came to be Tim’s main source of inspiration for his music.

Tim and Matt first met in 1972 at a father-son group called the Y-Indian Guides! They remained friends and were in some of the same classes in school. From senior year they seriously started to put a band together They played in various bands over the years and finally formed Operation Ivy in 1987. Tim says he and Matt were much more than friends – they were brothers.

In the few years that would follow Tim’s life would take a turn for the very worst. Between 1989 and 1991 Tim was hospitalized three times for alcohol and drug abuse. His brother Jeff, found him on the sidewalk in Telegraph Avenue and rushed him to hospital where he was found to have a 3.9 alcohol level – enough to have been fatal. After that, Tim was in and out of detox centers, living in a Salvation Army hostel, he was malnourished and broke. Matt stuck by him through this time often buying him food and giving him money. But it wasn’t until Matt finally gave up on playing music with him that Tim decided once and for all to “get clean”. His music meant way too much to him, his partnership with Matt meant even more.

Tim was living in a $100 a month punk rock house when money from Operation Ivy’s album finally began to come in. Tim felt like he’d been blessed, he says “For the first time in my life I had enough money to take care of myself and write music” A sober Tim learned how to vent his anger and frustration through making music with Rancid.

In 1995 on tour in Australia Tim first met a young girl named Brody who would become his wife in 1998. Sadly, the marriage ended in 2003 with much interest from the media. And saw Tim give some of his most personal interviews to date.

In 1998, Tim set up his own label with Brett Gurewitz– Hellcat Records. Becoming the home of such bands as, Dropkick Murphys, US Bombs, Slackers and F-Minus. Tim also took the role has producer and songwriter for a lot of bands and artists.

In 2001 he furthered his talents by making the commercially successful 3-piece the Transplants.

Tim remains to be an inspiration to young punk kids worldwide through his songwriting, individual guitar-playing and distinctive voice.

Jennifer Lynn

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:49 am

Yeah, actually Tom.....they aren't brothers. They're both named Armstrong and both from the Bay Area punk scene..but alas, no relation. I've read bios on both guys, and saw the Behind the Music on Green Day and Billie Joe is definitely NOT related to Tim. That would be a cool sibling rivalry, though.

Also, Billie Joe was NOT in Op Ivy. Operation Ivy was Tim, Matt Freeman (both now of Rancid), Jesse Michaels and Dave Mello. Tim was still going by the nickname, Lint, back in those days.
I think Green Day was actually Billie Joe's first band. They were originally called Sweet Children, before drummer Tre Cool later joined. Billie and Tim were never in a band together, but as you mentioned, they did co-write Rancid's song, Radio off their 1994 Let's Go CD.

Another "same name, but no relation" musical pairing is Dicky Barrett of The Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Aaron Barrett of Reel Big Fish. I wondered if Aaron was Dicky's little brother, but if you know anything about either band, you know that the Bosstones are obviously from Boston and RBF is from the OC, California. Same ska, different city.

-Kevin

*Annie* · Post by ***Annie*** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:58 am

You're awesome Kev!!!!! That was all very nice information!!!!!

AGAIN, last time I trust Tom with anything!!!!